The Turning Point USA AmericaFest conference, held this week in Phoenix, Arizona, was the first since the assassination of organization founder Charlie Kirk in September, an event that shook the American right. What was supposed to be a display of strength and unity for the MAGA camp quickly turned into a collision zone between the establishment wing of the right and its extremist and isolationist factions.
Even before speakers took the stage, the conference reflected a deeper struggle over the soul of the American right, a battle waged in recent months between competing streams within the MAGA camp. On one side stands the conservative-establishment stream, emphasizing clear ideological boundaries and opposition to antisemitism and conspiracy theories, while on the other side, a more populist and isolationist wing views such criticism as an attempt at silencing and enforcing uniformity – even from figures who clearly slide into openly antisemitic and anti-Israel territory.
The rift spilled outside the conference hall, including into central power centers in Washington, as the Heritage Foundation publicly rushed to defend Tucker Carlson amid criticism he received following interviews he conducted with antisemitic figures and faced substantial criticism from inside and outside. This transformed the confrontation not just into a personal dispute between commentators, but into a principled clash over the identity of the conservative movement, the boundaries of its legitimacy, and the direction it is heading in the Trump era and beyond.
Video: Vice President J.D. Vance’s speech as Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro clash. Credit: Turning Point
On opening night, the depth of the rift was exposed when conservative commentator Ben Shapiro took the stage and launched a frontal attack on central figures in the populist right, led by Tucker Carlson, the hard-right figure who has expressed harsh positions against Israel, frequently crossed the line into antisemitic conspiracy theories, and in October even hosted a declared antisemite and Holocaust denier, Nick Fuentes.
Shapiro warned that “the conservative movement is in serious danger,” not only from the left, but from “charlatans who claim they speak in the name of principles, but actually traffic in conspiracies and dishonesty.” He repeatedly invoked the late Kirk, arguing that “there’s a reason Charlie Kirk loathed Nick Fuentes… he knew that building up his persona is an act of moral folly, and that’s exactly what Tucker Carlson did.”
Shapiro added that “whoever gives a platform to a Holocaust denier and Nazi lover must take responsibility,” and made clear that for him this is a moral red line. The remarks were met with applause, but also with jeers from parts of the audience.
Carlson, who has been using his powerful platform to echo the messages of America’s enemies and antisemitic and anti-Israel voices, took the stage shortly after Shapiro’s speech.
Vice President J.D. Vance (L) and US President Donald Trump (R) (Photo: EPA)
He responded with direct and clear barbs. Without mentioning Shapiro’s name, he mocked calls for “de-platforming” at a conference bearing Charlie Kirk’s name, saying that “hearing calls for silencing and condemnation at such an event is ridiculous.” He said, “The entire so-called internal war on the right is completely fake.” Later, he also addressed claims about antisemitism, declaring: “Antisemitism is immoral. In my religion, hating people because of how they were born is a sin. Period.”
However, Carlson emphasized that, in his view, there is an attempt to use moral accusations to silence debate, and argued that the way to deal with extremist speakers is public debate, not a boycott, a statement made in direct response to the harsh criticism Shapiro voiced earlier. Later in the conference, populist right ideologue Steve Bannon spoke harshly against Shapiro, calling him “a cancer metastasizing” in the American right.
Into the charged atmosphere entered Vice President J.D. Vance’s speech, who was perceived at the conference not just as a representative of the administration, but as a key figure in the next generation of American right leadership. Vance emerged from those same populist and ideological circles that fueled the rise of the MAGA camp and has maintained close ties over the years with the Turning Point USA movement and with the late Charlie Kirk. At the conference, and especially against the backdrop of Kirk’s death, Vance was presented to many as someone expected to play a central role in leading the movement in the coming years, and even as a candidate to lead the Republican Party in the post-Donald Trump era.
Vance also directly addressed the internal rift on the right around Israel, antisemitism, and the confrontations between figures like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, and tried to present a conciliatory line. “I didn’t bring a list of conservatives to denounce and deplatform,” he said, adding that “We have far more important work to do than canceling each other.”
Tucker Carlson speaks during AmericaFest, the first Turning Point USA summit since the death of Charlie Kirk, in Phoenix, Arizona, US, December 18, 2025 (Photo: REUTERS/Cheney Orr)
Vance declared that in the Trump era “we don’t need to apologize anymore for being white,” as part of an attack on DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion policies), and emphasized that America must judge citizens by “who they are and what they contribute.” He repeated the isolationist line that the United States must focus on its internal affairs and avoid unnecessary foreign involvement.
Vance went further when he declared that “Christianity is the founding faith of America,” and argued that for decades “the left has been waging war against Christianity in the public sphere.” He said, “In a society that expelled God, a vacuum was created, and that vacuum was filled with destructive ideologies.” He indirectly connected progressive culture to political violence, saying that “this is exactly why we must fight them.”
Also appearing at the event was none other than pop star Nicki Minaj, who took the stage for an interview with Kirk’s widow, Erika. Minaj made headlines recently after calling on President Trump to intervene in the persecution of Christians in Nigeria.
